See also

Family of Francis Evan Elgar and Florence Maundrell

Husband: Francis Evan Elgar

  • Name:

  • Francis Evan Elgar3,4,5

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Father:

  • Alfred Elgar (1847?-1922)

  • Mother:

  • Eva Rose Joynt (1859-1943)

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • traveller, soldier then a clerk6,7,8

  • Birth:

  • 19 Dec 1880

  • Clapham, Surrey, England3,4,7,8,9,10

  • Baptism:

  • 30 Jan 1881 (age 0)

  • Our Immaculate Lady of Victories Church, Clapham Park Road, Clapham, Surrey, England4

  •  

  • son of Alfred Evan Elagar and Eva Rose Elgar of Cedars Row, god mother Annette Augusta Joynt

  • Census:

  • 3 Apr 1881 (age 3 mns)

  • Wine Stores, 11 Cedar Row, Clapham, Surrey, England9

  •  

  • grandson living with his grandparents Evan and Annette Joynt, aunt Annette Joynt, his parents Evan and Eva, and a servant. Born in Clapham Surrey

  • Census:

  • 5 Apr 1891 (age 10)

  • 43 Fernlea Road, Balham, London, England10

  •  

  • lodgers son attending school and living with his grandparents Evans and Annette Joynt, aunt Annette, his parents Alfred and Eva, brothers Alfred and Reginald, and sisters Hilda and Annette. Born in Clapham Surrey

  • Military Service:

  • frm 15 Feb 1901 to 19 Sep 1901 (age 20)

  • Duke of Cambridge Own Regiment as private:733 then the Imperial Yoemanry as no:347846

  •  

  • he was traveller being 5' 7" tall, weighing 133lbs with a chest of 34" expanding to 35", a fair complexion, blue eyes and dark hair. He served in South Africa from 9th March to 12th September 1901, but was discharged as unlikely to become an efficient soldier

  • Census absence:

  • 31 Mar 1901 (age 20)

  •  

  •  

  • as he was serving with the Army in South Africa

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 29)

  • 7 Keyford Terrace, Frome, Somerset, England7

  •  

  • a widower working as a printers clerk and living in five rooms with the widowed Sarah Jones and her daughter Gertrude. Born in London

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 58)

  • 28 Nunney Road, Frome, Somerset, England8

  •  

  • a married printers estimating clerk and a special constable living with his wife Florence and son Kenneth. Born on 19th December 1880

  • Administrator:

  • 30 Sep 1943 (age 62)

  •  

     

    Francis Evan Elgar was appointed as an administrator at the probate hearing of Eva Rose Joynt on Thursday on 30 September 1943 at the Probate Registry, Llandudno, Caernarvonshire, Wales

  • Death:

  • 20 Feb 1967 (age 86)

  • Frome "Registration District", Somerset, England5,11

  • Probate:

  • 26 Jul 1967

  • Probate Registry, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England11

  •  

  • of 28 Nunney Road Frome Somerset died 20th February 1967, probate of £13,583 (~£224,000 in 2017) to Francis James Elgar schoolmaster and Kenneth Alfred Elgar printers reader

Wife: Florence Maundrell

  • Name:

  • Florence Maundrell1,12

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Father:

  • -

  • Mother:

  • -

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • drapers assistant13

  • Birth:

  • 23 Jan 1884

  • Frome, Somerset, England8,12,13,14,15,16

  •  

  • 1939 register says born on 23rd January 1886, death index says born on 21st January 1887

  • Census:

  • 5 Apr 1891 (age 7)

  • Innox Hill, Frome, Somerset, England14

  •  

  • daughter attending school and living with her parents James and Rosa, sisters Avril, Harriet and Elisabeth, and brother William. Born in Frome Somerset

  • Census:

  • 31 Mar 1901 (age 17)

  • Innox Hill, Frome, Somerset, England15

  •  

  • unmarried daughter living with her parents James and Rosa, brother William, and sisters Lilian and Lydia. Born in Frome Somerset

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 24)

  • 2 Innox Hill, Frome, Somerset, England13

  •  

  • an unmarried daughter working as a draper's assistant and living in five rooms with her mother Rose, sister Dorothy and aunt Charlotte. Born in Frome Somerset

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 55)

  • 28 Nunney Road, Frome, Somerset, England8

  •  

  • married doing unpaid domestic duties and living with her husband Francis and son Kenneth. Born on 23rd January 1886

  • Death:

  • 27 May 1974 (age 90)

  • Mendip "Registration District", Somerset, England16,17

  • Probate:

  • 8 Aug 1974

  • Probate Registry, Bristol, Avon, England17

  •  

  • of 28 Nunney Road Frome Somerset died 27th May 1974, probate of £7,207 (~£64,000 in 2017)

Child 1: Francis James Elgar

  • Name:

  • Francis James Elgar18,19

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Name Suffix:

  • B.Sc

  • Spouse:

  • Margaret Inglis Mellor (1916-2010)

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • school chemistry and biology teacher20

  • Birth:

  • 8 Apr 1915

  • Frome "Registration District", Somerset, England18,20

  • Baptism:

  • 13 Jun 1915 (age 0)

  • Frome, Somerset, England2

  • Qualification:

  • Jun 1936 (age 21)

  • Bristol University, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England21

  •  

  • B.S.C. with Honours Part II 2nd class in Botany

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 24)

  • London Orphan School, Watford, Hertfordshire, England20

  •  

  • an unmarried assistant master of Chemistry and Biology living with many other teachers and staff. Born on 8th April 1915

  • Administrator:

  • 26 Jul 1967 (age 52)

  •  

     

    Francis James Elgar was appointed as an administrator at the probate hearing of Francis Evan Elgar on Wednesday on 26 July 1967 at the Probate Registry, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

  • Death:

  • 18 Mar 2012 (age 96)

  • Chesterfield "Registration District", Derbyshire, England19,22

  • Probate:

  • 16 Jul 2012

  • Probate Registry, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Tyne and Wear, England22

  •  

  • grant and will, died 18th March 2012

Child 2: Kenneth Alfred Elgar

  • Name:

  • Kenneth Alfred Elgar23,24

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • printers reader8

  • Birth:

  • 7 Dec 1916

  • Frome "Registration District", Somerset, England8,23,24

  • Baptism:

  • 29 Apr 1917 (age 0)

  • Frome, Somerset, England2

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 22)

  • 28 Nunney Road, Frome, Somerset, England8

  •  

  • an unmarried printers reader living with his parents Francis and Florence. Born on 7th December 1916

  • Administrator:

  • 26 Jul 1967 (age 50)

  •  

     

    Kenneth Alfred Elgar was appointed as an administrator at the probate hearing of Francis Evan Elgar on Wednesday on 26 July 1967 at the Probate Registry, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

  • Death:

  • 9 Aug 2005 (age 88)

  • Mendip "Registration District", Somerset, England24,25

  • Probate:

  • 13 Dec 2005

  • Probate Registry, Bristol, Bristol, England25

  •  

  • grant and will, died 9th August 2005

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2.

Anthony Elgar personal communication. email dated 2nd August 2022, filed under Alfred Elgar. Cit. Date: 3 August 2022.

3.

England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Wandsworth 1881 quarter:1 volume:1d page:590. Cit. Date: 27 December 2020.

4.

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5.

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7.

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8.

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9.

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10.

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11.

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12.

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13.

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14.

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15.

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16.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Mendip 1974 quarter:2 volume:23 page:1086. Cit. Date: 6 November 2021.

17.

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18.

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19.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Chesterfield 2012 quarter:1 district:3931D entry:506442415. Cit. Date: 6 November 2012.

20.

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22.

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23.

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24.

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25.

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