See also

Family of Henry Palmer and Susannah Smith

  • Husband:

  • Henry Palmer (1831-1917)

  • Wife:

  • Susannah Smith (1836?-1889)

  • Children:

  • Lillie Josephine Palmer (1875-1957)

  • Marriage:

  • 5 Nov 1871

  • The Register Office, Grimwade Street, Ipswich, Suffolk, England1

  •  

  • Henry a mariner of Potter Street, St. Helens Ipswich, Susannah of Albion Street, St. Clements Ipswich, both widowed, married by certificate, groom's father James Palmer deceased shoemaker, bride's father Oliver Smith malster, witnessed by Mary Ann Palmer and James Smith

Husband: Henry Palmer

  • Name:

  • Henry Palmer1

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Father:

  • James Palmer (1801?-1870)

  • Mother:

  • Juliet Steggall (1798?-1884)

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • porter becoming an engineer fireman / railway engine driver then a donkeyman on railway boats1,2,3,4,5,6,7

  • Birth:

  • 3 Mar 1831

  • Trimley St. Mary, Suffolk, England4,5,6,8,9,10,11

  •  

  • recorded at Walton Baptist Church, son of James Palmer and Julia

  • Census:

  • 6 Jun 1841 (age 10)

  • Church Lane, St. Matthew, Ipswich, Suffolk, England12

  •  

  • aged 10, living with parents and six siblings. Born in Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 30 Mar 1851 (age 20)

  • Church Street, St. Clement, Ipswich, Suffolk, England13

  •  

  • aged 20 unmarried, porter living with Cassander Ransome (future mother-in-law). Born in Walton Suffolk. Henry also appears as living at home with parents and six siblings

  • Census:

  • 7 Apr 1861 (age 30)

  • South Town, Suffolk, England4

  •  

  • married head of the household working as an engineer fireman and living with his wife Cassandra (sic), son Henry, and daughters Julia and Cassandria (sic). Born in Tremble Suffolk

  • Census absence:

  • 2 Apr 1871 (age 40)

  •  

  •  

  • He was not found in census of 2 April 1871, presumably away at sea. His children were either with relatives or in a home

  • Census:

  • 3 Apr 1881 (age 50)

  • Avalon, Harwich, Essex, England14

  •  

  • aged 52 married, donkey man, living on board. Born in Trimley Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 5 Apr 1891 (age 64)

  • 33 Victoria Terrace, Dovercourt, Essex, England5

  •  

  • widowed head of the household working as a ships engine driver and living with daughter Lily, step-daughter Annie and her husband Harry Green, and two boarders. Born in Trimley Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 31 Mar 1901 (age 73)

  • 33 Victoria Terrace, Dovercourt, Essex, England6

  •  

  • married (actually widowed) head of the household working as a ships donkey man and living in four rooms with his daughter Lily, sharing the house with step-daughter Annie, her husband Harry Green, and their adopted daughter Gertrude. Born in Trimley Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 80)

  • Sunnyside, 3 Parkston Villas, Cliff Road, Dovercourt, Essex, England10

  •  

  • widowed (step-)father living in seven rooms with his step- daughter Annie, daughter Lily, and Annie's adopted daughter Gerty Olive. Born in Trimley Suffolk

  • Death:

  • 4 May 1917 (age 86)

  • 14 Cliff Road, Dovercourt, Essex, England11

  •  

  • Cause: of acute bronchitis and senile decay

    a donkeyman on railway boats (retired), A Green step-daughter present at death

  • Burial:

  • 8 May 1917

  • All Saints Church, Main Road, Dovercourt, Essex, England15

  •  

  • aged 86

Wife: Susannah Smith

  • Name:

  • Susannah Smith1

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Father:

  • Oliver Smith (1816?-1873?)

  • Mother:

  • Susan Page (1817?-1897)

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • needle woman16

  • Birth:

  • Feb 1836 (app)

  • Star Lane, Ipswich, Suffolk, England1,16,17,18

  • Baptism:

  • 14 Feb 1836 (age 0)

  • St. Margaret's Church, Bolton Lane, Ipswich, Suffolk, England17

  • Census:

  • 6 Jun 1841 (age 5)

  • Fore Hamlet, Ipswich, Suffolk, England19,20

  •  

  • aged 5 born in Suffolk living with parents.

  • Census:

  • 30 Mar 1851 (age 15)

  • St. Clement, Ipswich, Suffolk, England17

  •  

  • aged 14. Born in Ipswich, living with parents

  • Witness:

  • 7 May 1856 (age 20)

  • Susannah Smith witnessed the marriage of Peter Tabbert and Mary Ann Smith on Wednesday on 7 May 1856 in Holy Trinity Church, Back Hamlet, Ipswich, Suffolk, England

  • Census:

  • 7 Apr 1861 (age 25)

  • 5 Siloam Place, Ipswich, Suffolk, England21

  •  

  • married wife aged 24 born in Ipswich Suffolk living with her husband.

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1871 (age 33)

  • 4 Albion Street, Ipswich, Suffolk, England16,22

  •  

  • widowed head of the household working as a needle woman and living with her grandmother Elizabeth Smith, daughter Ann, son Henry, niece Cassandra Palmer, and nephews Arthur and Oliver Palmer. Born in Ipswich Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 3 Apr 1881 (age 43)

  • 2 Hordle Street, Dovercourt, Essex, England18

  •  

  • married wife of an engine driver living with her step-sons Arthur and Oliver, son Henry, and daughter Lillie. Born in Ipswich Suffolk

  • Death:

  • Dec 1889 (age 54)

  • Tendring "Registration District", Essex, England15,23,24,25

  • Burial:

  • 30 Dec 1889

  • All Saints Church, Main Road, Dovercourt, Essex, England15,25

  •  

  • aged 54 and of Victoria Terrace

Child 1: Lillie Josephine Palmer

  • Name:

  • Lillie Josephine Palmer26,27

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Nickname:

  • Lily

  • Spouse:

  • James Joseph Downes (1875-1953)

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • housekeeper28

  • Birth:

  • 9 Aug 1875

  • Dovercourt, Essex, England5,6,10,18,26,27,28

  • Baptism:

  • 1 Mar 1876 (age 0)

  • All Saints Church, Main Road, Dovercourt, Essex, England27

  •  

  • daughter of Henry Palmer (donkey man) and Susannah of Dovercourt

  • Census:

  • 3 Apr 1881 (age 6)

  • 2 Hordle Street, Dovercourt, Essex, England18

  •  

  • daughter attending school and living with her mother Susannah, and half-brothers Arthur, Oliver and Henry. Born in Dovercourt Essex

  • Census:

  • 5 Apr 1891 (age 15)

  • 33 Victoria Terrace, Dovercourt, Essex, England5

  •  

  • daughter living with her widowed father Henry, half-sister Annie and her husband Harry Green, and two boarders. Born in Dovercourt Essex

  • Census:

  • 31 Mar 1901 (age 25)

  • 33 Victoria Terrace, Dovercourt, Essex, England6

  •  

  • daughter living in four rooms with her father Henry, sharing the house with step-sister Annie, her husband Harry Green, and their adopted daughter Gertrude. Born in Dovercourt Essex

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 36)

  • Sunnyside, 3 Parkston Villas, Cliff Road, Dovercourt, Essex, England10

  •  

  • unmarried half-sister living in seven rooms with her half- sister Annie, widowed father Henry Palmer, and Annie's adopted daughter Gerty Olive. Born in Dovercourt Essex

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 64)

  • 12 Brooklyn Road, Dovercourt, Essex, England28

  •  

  • an unmarried housekeeper and companion as Lily living with widowed Lucy Staples. Born on 9th August 1875 and married a Downes at a later date

  • Death:

  • 30 Nov 1957 (age 82)

  • St. Mary's Hospital, Popes Lane, Colchester, Essex, England29,30

  • Probate:

  • 22 Jan 1958

  • Probate Registry, Arcade Street, Ipswich, Suffolk, England30

  •  

  • a widow of 478 Main Road, Dovercourt died 30th November 1957 at St. Mary's Hospital Colchester, administration of effects of £502 11s 0d (~£11,000 in 2017) to Oliver James Palmer railway accounts clerk and Ronald Basil Wilkinson secretary cashier

Sources

1.

Marriage Certificate. own copy. Family Archive, Held by David and Sue Wilkinson.

2.

England and Wales Census 1851, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:HO107 piece:1799 folio:429 page:8.

3.

Birth Certificate. daughter Cassandra Elizabeth. Family Archive, Held by David and Sue Wilkinson.

4.

England and Wales Census 1861, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:RG09 piece:1189 folio:167 page:40. Cit. Date: 4 February 2021.

5.

England and Wales Census 1891, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:RG12 piece:1402 folio:47 page:34 schedule:216. Cit. Date: 6 September 2022.

6.

England and Wales Census 1901, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:RG13 piece:1698 folio:70 page:31 schedule:207. Cit. Date: 6 September 2022.

7.

Death Certificate. copy supplied by Kathy. Family Archive, Held by David and Sue Wilkinson.

8.

Church of the Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch, (www.familysearch.org). batch:C09286-1 sys:England-ODM film:0825410 (RG4 2709).

9.

England and Wales Census 1851, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk).

10.

England and Wales Census 1911, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:RG14 piece:10248 class:RG78 piece:540 registration district:197 sub-district:3 enumeration district:2 schedule:100. Cit. Date: 6 September 2022.

11.

Death Certificate. copy supplied by Kathy Prezeniczny. Family Archive, Held by David and Sue Wilkinson.

12.

England and Wales Census 1841, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:HO107 piece:1043 folio:34 page:20.

13.

England and Wales Census 1851, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:HO107 piece:1800 folio:207 page:4 and class:HO107 piece:1799 folio:429 page:8.

14.

England and Wales Census 1881, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:RG11 piece:1782 folio:163 page:.

15.

The Federation of Family History Societies, National Burial Index for England & Wales v.3, (2010 own copy).

16.

England and Wales Census 1871, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:RG10 piece:1754 folio:63 page:22 schedule:113. Cit. Date: 21 August 2023.

17.

Kathy Przeniczny personal communication. email. Cit. Date: 24 January 2005.

18.

England and Wales Census 1881, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:RG11 piece:1781 folio:38 paqge:27 schedule:888. Cit. Date: 6 September 2022.

19.

Kathy Przeniczny personal communication. email. Cit. Date: 17 May 2005.

20.

England and Wales Census 1841, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:HO107 piece:1043/P26.

21.

England and Wales Census 1861, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). 1861/RG9/1164/p14.

22.

Kathy Przeniczny personal communication. email. Cit. Date: 10 January 2005.

23.

Adams/Wilkinson Family Tree, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk). Ancestry.com. Cit. Date: 6 September 2008.

24.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Tendring 1889 quarter:4 volume:4a page:268. Cit. Date: 10 March 2021.

25.

Seax - Essex Record Office Parish Records, (on-line at www.essexcc.gov.uk). Dovercourt All Saints burials 1878-1899 ref:D/P 174/1/19 image:26 entry:376. Cit. Date: 10 March 2021.

26.

England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Tendring 1875 quarter:4 volume:4a page:312. Cit. Date: 5 September 2022.

27.

Seax - Essex Record Office Parish Records, (on-line at www.essexcc.gov.uk). Dovercourt All Saints baptisms 1858-1878 ref:D/P 174/1/6 image:46 page:86 entry:687. Cit. Date: 5 September 2022.

28.

UK 1939 Register, (on-line at www.findmypast.co.uk). class:RG101 piece:1515D page:9 line:2 letter code:DBZG. Cit. Date: 6 September 2022.

29.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Colchester 1957 quarter:4 volume:4a page:679. Cit. Date: 6 September 2022.

30.

Ancestry England and Wales National Probate Calendar (Index to Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk). Ipswich 1958 page:339. Cit. Date: 6 September 2022.