See also

Family of Alan James Piper and Violet Eleanor Birtchnell

Husband: Alan James Piper

  • Name:

  • Alan James Piper3 4 5

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Father:

  • Thomas Piper (1858?- )

  • Mother:

  • Mary Ann Frost (1865- )

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • soldier in the Royal Field Artillery1 6

  • Birth:

  • Q2 1893

  • Kersey, Suffolk, England3 7 6

  •  

  • 1921 census says born in Hadleigh Suffolk which is close to Kersey

  • Baptism:

  • 16 Apr 1893 (age 0)

  • St. Mary's Church, Church Hill, Kersey, Suffolk, England4

  •  

  • son of Thomas Piper (dealer) and Mary Ann

  • Census:

  • 31 Mar 1901 (age 8)

  • The Street, Kersey, Suffolk, England7

  •  

  • son living in three rooms with his parents Thomas and Mary, brothers George, Robert, William, Clement and Frederick, and sisters Elizabeth, Lily and Miriam. Born in Kersey Suffolk

  • Military Service:

  • frm 20 Mar 1911 to 19 Jul 1940 (age 17-47)

  • British Army Royal Artillery as no:64682 then 10312501

  •  

  • a farm labourer born in Kersey Hadleigh Suffolk. Married Violet Eleanor Birtchnell in Lewisham on 8th March 1923, and had daughters Joyce Marion born in Aldershot on 23rd May 1924 and Myrtle Jean born in Knightsbridge on 4th March 1926. Completed his service on 19th March 1934 but re-enlisted the following day

  • Census absence:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 17-18)

  •  

  •  

  • note that there is an Alan James Piper aged 18 serving in the Royal Field Artillery in Woolwich but his place of birth is given as Oxford

  • Census:

  • 19 Jun 1921 (age 28 yrs 3 mns)

  • Shorncliffe Camp, Folkestone, Kent, England6

  •  

  • an unmarried sergeant serving in the Royal Field Artillery. Born in Hadleigh Suffolk

  • Death:

  • 9 Feb 1950 (age 56)

  • Essex "South Western Registration District", Essex, England5 8

  • Probate:

  • 29 Mar 1950

  • Probate Registry, London, England8

  •  

  • of 11 Roma Road Walthamstow London E.17 died 9th February 1950, administration of effects of £554 10s 6d (~£17,000 in 2017) to Violet Eleanor Piper widow. A further grant was given in Ipswich on 12th February 1975

Wife: Violet Eleanor Birtchnell

  • Name:

  • Violet Eleanor Birtchnell9 1 2

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Father:

  • -

  • Mother:

  • -

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • parlourmaid10

  • Birth:

  • 23 Jun 1898

  • St. John, Deptford, London, England9 11 12 10 13

  • Census:

  • 31 Mar 1901 (age 2)

  • 26 Wickham Lane, Plumstead, London, England11

  •  

  • daughter living with her parents Percy and Ethel, brothers Stewart and Frank, and a servant. Born in St. Johns Deptford

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 12)

  • 15 Woodview Terrace, Wickham Lane, Plumstead, London, England12

  •  

  • daughter attending school and living in six rooms with her parents Percy and Ethel, brothers Stewart, Frank and Sydney, and three boarders. Born in St. Johns London

  • Census:

  • 19 Jun 1921 (age 22 yrs 11 mns)

  • The Chesnuts, Figges Marsh, Mitcham, Surrey, England10

  •  

  • an unmarried parlour maid living with Philip Pain, and her future sister and brother-in-law Florence and Robert Piper. Born on 23rd June 1898 in Deptford County of London

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 41)

  • 11 Roma Road, Walthamstow, Essex, England13

  •  

  • married doing unpaid domestic duties and living with daughter Joyce, three closed records (presumably daughter Myrtle, and sons John and Dennis), and sons Peter and David. Born on 23rd June 1898

  • Administrator:

  • 29 Mar 1950 (age 51)

  •  

     

    Violet Eleanor Birtchnell was appointed as an administrator at the probate hearing of Alan James Piper on Wednesday on 29 March 1950 at the Probate Registry, London, England

  • Death:

  • 11 Nov 1966 (age 68)

  • North Middlesex County Hospital, Silver Street, Edmonton, Middlesex, England14 15

  • Probate:

  • 11 Jan 1967

  • Probate Registry, London, England15

  •  

  • of 11 Roma Road London E.17 died 11th November 1966 at North Middlesex Hospital Edmonton London, administration of £2,099 (~£34,000 in 2017) to Myrtle Jean Bartlett married woman

Child 1: Joyce Marian Piper

  • Name:

  • Joyce Marian Piper1 16

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • shop assistant13

  • Birth:

  • 23 May 1924

  • Aldershot, Hampshire, England1 16 13

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 15)

  • 11 Roma Road, Walthamstow, Essex, England13

  •  

  • an unmarried bakers shop assistant living with her mother Violet, three closed records (presumably sister Myrtle, and brothers John and Dennis), and brothers Peter and David. Born on 23rd May 1924

Child 2: Myrtle Jean Piper

  • Name:

  • Myrtle Jean Piper1 17

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Spouse (1):

  • John Banks ( - )

  • Spouse (2):

  • Albert Henry Bartlett (1924-2013)

  • Birth:

  • 4 Mar 1926

  • Knightsbridge, London, England1 17 18

  • Administrator:

  • 11 Jan 1967 (age 40)

  •  

     

    Myrtle Jean Piper was appointed as an administrator at the probate hearing of Violet Eleanor Birtchnell on Wednesday on 11 January 1967 at the Probate Registry, London, England

  • Death:

  • Feb 2003 (age 76)

  • Waltham Forest "Registration District", Greater London, England18

Child 3: John Alan Piper

  • Name:

  • John Alan Piper19 20

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Birth:

  • Q3 1930

  • St. Pancras "Registration District", London, England19

  • Death:

  • Q1 2018 (age 87)

  • Hounslow "Registration District", Greater London, England20

Child 5: Peter James Piper

  • Name:

  • Peter James Piper21 22

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Birth:

  • 14 Nov 1935

  • Essex "South Western Registration District", Essex, England21 13 22

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 3)

  • 11 Roma Road, Walthamstow, Essex, England13

  •  

  • under school age and living with his mother Violet, sister Joyce, three closed records (presumably sister Myrtle, and brothers John and Dennis), and brother David. Born on 14th November 1935

  • Death:

  • Jan 1991 (age 55)

  • Tunbridge Wells "Registration District", Kent, England22

Child 6: David Clement Piper

  • Name:

  • David Clement Piper23 24

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Birth:

  • 11 Jan 1938

  • Essex "South Western Registration District", Essex, England23 13 24

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 1)

  • 11 Roma Road, Walthamstow, Essex, England13

  •  

  • under school age and living with his mother Violet, sister Joyce, three closed records (presumably sister Myrtle, and brothers John and Dennis), and brother Peter. Born on 11th January 1938

  • Death:

  • Sep 1995 (age 57)

  • Waltham Forest "Registration District", Greater London, England24

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2.

England and Wales Marriage Index 1837 - 2005, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). Greenwich 1923 quarter:1 volume:1d page:1260. Cit. Date: 26 July 2025.

3.

England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Cosford 1893 quarter:2 volume:4a page:763. Cit. Date: 23 July 2025.

4.

Suffolk Family History Society All Baptisms Suffolk 1813-1900, (SFK-BPI/P1-1 own copy). Kersey St. Mary baptisms entry:620. Cit. Date: 26 July 2025.

5.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Essex South Western 1950 quarter:1 volume:5a page:305. Cit. Date: 27 July 2025.

6.

England and Wales Census 1921, (on-line at www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive series:RG15 piece:4585 registration district:66 sub-district:1 enumeration district:30, 31, 32, 33 page:13. Cit. Date: 27 July 2025.

7.

England and Wales Census 1901, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG13 piece:1749 folio:69 page:2 schedule:10. Cit. Date: 23 July 2025.

8.

UK Government Probate Service, UK Government Find a Will, (on-line at www.probatesearch.service.gov.uk, www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). London 1950 page:491. Cit. Date: 27 July 2025.

9.

England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Greenwich 1898 quarter:3 volume:1d page:1113. Cit. Date: 27 July 2025.

10.

England and Wales Census 1921, (on-line at www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive series:RG15 piece:3552 registration district:39 sub-district:6 enumeration district:20 schedule:287. Cit. Date: 27 July 2025.

11.

England and Wales Census 1901, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG13 piece:576 folio:124 page:18 schedule:110. Cit. Date: 27 July 2025.

12.

England and Wales Census 1911, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG14 piece:2913 class:RG78 piece:100 registration district:30 sub-district:4 enumeration district:8 schedule:322. Cit. Date: 27 July 2025.

13.

UK 1939 Register, (on-line at www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG101 piece: 1133A page:8 line:22 letter code:CDJE. Cit. Date: 26 July 2025.

14.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Enfield 1966 quarter:4 volume:5b page:314. Cit. Date: 27 July 2025.

15.

UK Government Probate Service, UK Government Find a Will, (on-line at www.probatesearch.service.gov.uk, www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). London 1967 page:541. Cit. Date: 27 July 2025.

16.

England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Farnham 1924 quarter:2 volume:2a page:234. Cit. Date: 26 July 2025.

17.

Ibid. St. George Hanover Square 1926 quarter:1 volume:1a page:562. Cit. Date: 26 July 2025.

18.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Waltham Forest 2003 quarter:1 district:2551D register:D65 entry:120 date:0203. Cit. Date: 26 July 2025.

19.

England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). St. Pancras 1930 quarter:3 volume:1b page:159. Cit. Date: 26 July 2025.

20.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Hounslow 2018 quarter:1 district:2371A entry:516763374. Cit. Date: 26 July 2025.

21.

England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Essex South Western 1935 quarter:4 volume:4a page:394. Cit. Date: 26 July 2025.

22.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Tunbridge Wells 1991 quarter:1 register:191 volume:16 page:2326. Cit. Date: 26 July 2025.

23.

England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Essex South Western 1938 quarter:1 volume:4a page:417. Cit. Date: 26 July 2025.

24.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Waltham Forest 1995 quarter:3 district:2551A register:A52 entry:117 date:0995. Cit. Date: 26 July 2025.