See also

Family of Arthur James Palmer and Elizabeth Ann Collins

Husband: Arthur James Palmer

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Arthur James Palmer

  • Name:

  • Arthur James Palmer2 3

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Father:

  • Henry Palmer (1831-1917)

  • Mother:

  • Cassandra Elizabeth Lee (1833?-1869)

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • engine fitter, railway clerk then a railway station master4 5 6 7 8 9

  • Birth:

  • 3 Aug 1864

  • Dovercourt, Essex, England10 2 11 4 5 6 7 8 9

  •  

  • 1871 census says born in Harwich Essex

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1871 (age 6)

  • 4 Albion Street, Ipswich, Suffolk, England10 11

  •  

  • nephew attending school and living with his widowed aunt Susannah Grayston, widowed great grandmother Elizabeth Smith, cousins Ann and Henry Grayston, and sister Cassandra, and brother Oliver. Born in Harwich Essex

  • Census:

  • 3 Apr 1881 (age 17)

  • 2 Hordle Street, Dovercourt, Essex, England4

  •  

  • unmarried (step-)son working as an engine fitter and living with his step-mother Susannah, brother Oliver, half-brother Henry, and half-sister Lillie. Born in Dovercourt Essex

  • Witness:

  • 9 Aug 1885 (age 21)

  • Arthur James Palmer witnessed the marriage of Edward Henry Wilkinson and Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer on Sunday on 9 August 1885 in the Congregational Chapel, Chapel Road, Tollesbury, Essex, England

  • Census:

  • 5 Apr 1891 (age 26)

  • Station Road, Kelvedon, Essex, England5

  •  

  • unmarried lodger working as a railway clerk and living with Walter and Sarah Hughes and family. Born in Dovercourt Essex

  • Census:

  • 31 Mar 1901 (age 37)

  • 1 Martin Road, Ipswich, Suffolk, England6

  •  

  • married head of the household working as a railway clerk and living with his wife Elizabeth, and son Arthur. Born in Dovercourt Essex

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 46)

  • Railway Station, Ingham, Suffolk, England7

  •  

  • married head of the household working as a railway station master for Great Eastern Railway and living in five rooms with his wife Elizabeth, sons Arthur, Alec and Oliver, and daughter Margaret. Born in Dovercourt Essex

  • Census:

  • 19 Jun 1921 (age 56 yrs 10 mns)

  • Station Road, Southminster, Essex, England8

  •  

  • married head of the household working as a station master for Great Eastern Railway at Southminster Essex and living in seven rooms with his wife Elizabeth, sons Arthur, Alec and Oliver, and daughter Margaret. Born in Dovercourt Essex

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 75)

  • Woodbine, Queen's Road, Earls Colne, Essex, England9

  •  

  • a married and retired railway station master living with his wife Elizabeth. Born on 3rd August 1864

  • Administrator:

  • 11 Mar 1946 (age 81)

  •  

     

    Arthur James Palmer was appointed as an administrator at the probate hearing of Elizabeth Ann Collins on Monday on 11 March 1946 at the Probate Registry, Arcade Street, Ipswich, Suffolk, England

  • Death:

  • 22 Feb 1949 (age 84)

  • Braintree "Registration District", Essex, England3 12

  • Probate:

  • 9 Apr 1949

  • Probate Registry, Arcade Street, Ipswich, Suffolk, England12

  •  

  • of School House Feering Essex died 22nd February 1949, probate of effects of £2,850 5s 7d (~£91,000 in 2017) to Arthur Edward Palmer railway clerk and Alec Frank Palmer accounts clerk

Wife: Elizabeth Ann Collins

  • Name:

  • Elizabeth Ann Collins13 1

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Father:

  • -

  • Mother:

  • -

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • domestic servant14 15

  • Birth:

  • 20 Nov 1863

  • Croscombe, Somerset, England13 16 14 15 6 7 8 9

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1871 (age 7)

  • Chelynch, Doulton, Somerset, England16

  •  

  • daughter attending school and living with her parents Edward and Elizabeth, sister Clara, and brother Arthur. Born in Croscombe Somerset

  • Census:

  • 3 Apr 1881 (age 17)

  • 17 New Street, Wells, Somerset, England14

  •  

  • an unmarried domestic servant living with William ans Mary Welsh and family, a visitor, and two other servants. Born in Croscombe Somerset

  • Census:

  • 5 Apr 1891 (age 27)

  • Northwood, Hornsey Lane, Hornsey, Middlesex, England15

  •  

  • an unmarried domestic servant living with Corry and Mima Wright and family, eight other servants, and two others. Born in Croscombe Somerset

  • Census:

  • 31 Mar 1901 (age 37)

  • 1 Martin Road, Ipswich, Suffolk, England6

  •  

  • married wife living with her husband Arthur, and son Arthur. Born in Croscombe Somerset

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 47)

  • Railway Station, Ingham, Suffolk, England7

  •  

  • married wife living in five rooms with her husband Arthur, sons Arthur, Alec and Oliver, and daughter Margaret. Born in Croscombe Somerset. Married for eleven years with four children, all of whom are still living

  • Census:

  • 19 Jun 1921 (age 57 yrs 7 mns)

  • Station Road, Southminster, Essex, England8

  •  

  • married wife doing home duties and living in seven rooms with her husband Arthur, sons Arthur, Alec and Oliver, and daughter Margaret. Born in Croscombe Somerset

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 75)

  • Woodbine, Queen's Road, Earls Colne, Essex, England9

  •  

  • married doing unpaid domestic duties and living with her husband Arthur. Born on 20th November 1863

  • Death:

  • 1 Dec 1945 (age 82)

  • Braintree "Registration District", Essex, England17 18

  • Probate:

  • 11 Mar 1946

  • Probate Registry, Arcade Street, Ipswich, Suffolk, England18

  •  

  • of School House Feering Essex (wife of Arthur James Palmer) died 1st December 1945, administration of effects of £305 13s 4d (~£11,000 in 2017) to the said Arthur James Palmer retired station master

Child 1: Arthur Edward Palmer

  • Name:

  • Arthur Edward Palmer19

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Spouse:

  • Winifred Mary Day (1903-1986)

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • railway booking clerk8 20

  • Birth:

  • 26 Jul 1900

  • Ipswich, Suffolk, England19 6 7 8 20

  • Baptism:

  • 26 Aug 1900 (age 0)

  • St. Peter's Church, College Street, Ipswich, Suffolk, England21

  •  

  • son of Arthur James Palmer (railway clerk) and Elizabeth Ann of 1 Martin Road

  • Census:

  • 31 Mar 1901 (age 8 mns)

  • 1 Martin Road, Ipswich, Suffolk, England6

  •  

  • son living with his parents Arthur and Elizabeth. Born in Ipswich Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 10)

  • Railway Station, Ingham, Suffolk, England7

  •  

  • son attending school and living in five rooms with his parents Arthur and Elizabeth, brothers Alec and Oliver, and sister Margaret. Born in Ipswich Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 19 Jun 1921 (age 20 yrs 10 mns)

  • Station Road, Southminster, Essex, England8

  •  

  • unmarried son working as a booking clerk for Great Eastern Railway at Southminster and living in seven rooms with his parents Arthur and Elizabeth, brothers Alec and Oliver, and sister Margaret. Born in Ipswich Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 39)

  • The Chalet, Nevendon Road, Wickford, Essex, England20

  •  

  • a married railway clerk and ARP Warden living with his wife in his in-laws home. Born on 26th July 1900

  • Administrator:

  • 9 Apr 1949 (age 48)

  •  

     

    Arthur Edward Palmer was appointed as an administrator at the probate hearing of Arthur James Palmer on Saturday on 9 April 1949 at the Probate Registry, Arcade Street, Ipswich, Suffolk, England

  • Death:

  • Q1 1957 (age 56)

  • Ipswich "Registration District", Suffolk, England22

Child 2: Alec Frank Palmer

  • Name:

  • Alec Frank Palmer23 7

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • clerk then as an accountant8 24

  • Birth:

  • 2 Jan 1902

  • Ipswich, Suffolk, England23 7 8 24

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 9)

  • Railway Station, Ingham, Suffolk, England7

  •  

  • son living in five rooms with his parents Arthur and Elizabeth, brothers Arthur and Oliver, and sister Margaret. Born in Ipswich Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 19 Jun 1921 (age 19 yrs 5 mns)

  • Station Road, Southminster, Essex, England8

  •  

  • unmarried son working as a clerk for East Essex Farmers Ltd corn and coal merchants of Southminster and living in seven rooms with his parents Arthur and Elizabeth, brothers Arthur and Oliver, and sister Margaret. Born in Ipswich Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 37)

  • The Haven, Sugden Road, Long Ditton, Surrey, England24

  •  

  • an unmarried Met Water Board cashier and accountant living with Edwin and Harriet Castle and an Eric Swallow. Born on 2nd January 1902

  • Administrator:

  • 9 Apr 1949 (age 47)

  •  

     

    Alec Frank Palmer was appointed as an administrator at the probate hearing of Arthur James Palmer on Saturday on 9 April 1949 at the Probate Registry, Arcade Street, Ipswich, Suffolk, England

  • Death:

  • Q3 1966 (age 64)

  • Kingston upon Thames "Registration District", Greater London, England25

Child 3: Oliver James Palmer

  • Name:

  • Oliver James Palmer26 7

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • railway booking clerk8 27

  • Birth:

  • 14 Mar 1903

  • Ipswich, Suffolk, England26 7 8 27 28

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 8)

  • Railway Station, Ingham, Suffolk, England7

  •  

  • son living in five rooms with his parents Arthur and Elizabeth, brothers Arthur and Alec, and sister Margaret. Born in Ipswich Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 19 Jun 1921 (age 18 yrs 3 mns)

  • Station Road, Southminster, Essex, England8

  •  

  • unmarried son working as a booking clerk for Great Eastern Railway at Althorne and living in seven rooms with his parents Arthur and Elizabeth, brothers Arthur and Alec, and sister Margaret. Born in Ipswich Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 36)

  • 5 Swanage Road, Hale End, Essex, England27

  •  

  • an unmarried railway clerk living with Frances Rainger and two others. Born on 14th March 1903

  • Administrator:

  • 22 Jan 1958 (age 54)

  •  

     

    Oliver James Palmer was appointed as an administrator at the probate hearing of Lillie Josephine Palmer on Wednesday on 22 January 1958 at the Probate Registry, Arcade Street, Ipswich, Suffolk, England

  • Death:

  • Q2 1973 (age 70)

  • Bodmin "Registration District", Cornwall, England28

Child 4: Margaret Annie Palmer

  • Name:

  • Margaret Annie Palmer29 7

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Birth:

  • Q1 1906

  • Ingham, Suffolk, England29 7 8

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 5)

  • Railway Station, Ingham, Suffolk, England7

  •  

  • daughter living in five rooms with her parents Arthur and Elizabeth, and brothers Arthur, Alec and Oliver. Born in Ingham Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 19 Jun 1921 (age 15 yrs 4 mns)

  • Station Road, Southminster, Essex, England8

  •  

  • daughter attending school and living in seven rooms with her parents Arthur and Elizabeth, and brothers Arthur, Alec and Oliver. Born in Ingham Suffolk

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