See also

Family of Ernest Payne and Alice Barrett

Husband: Ernest Payne

  • Name:

  • Ernest Payne2,3

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Father:

  • Charles Wesley Payne (1854-1942)

  • Mother:

  • Jessie Crosby (1859?- )

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • carpenter and joiner4

  • Birth:

  • 5 Jul 1899

  • Coney Weston, Suffolk, England2,3,4,5,6,7,8

  •  

  • 1939 register has 6th July 1899 as date of birth

  • Census:

  • 31 Mar 1901 (age 1)

  • Bury Road, Wattisfield, Suffolk, England5

  •  

  • son living in four rooms with his mother Jessie, sisters Flora and Mary, and brothers Oliver, Richard and Albert. Born in Coney Weston Suffolk

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 11)

  • Dunnell Lane, Hepworth, Suffolk, England6

  •  

  • son living in four rooms with his parents, sister Mary and a grandmother. Born in Coney Weston

  • Military Service:

  • btw 14 Dec 1917 and 31 Mar 1918 (age 18)

  • royal navy as a seaman No:F437907

  •  

  • being transferred to th R.A.F. he wa 5' 6½" tall, 35" chest, brown hair, grey eyes, a fresh complexion with scars on both knees and bottom of back

  • Military Service:

  • btw 1 Apr 1918 and 14 Feb 1919 (age 18-19)

  • Royal Air Force as No:2437907

  •  

  • being transferred to the R.A.F. on 16th March 1919

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 40)

  • 143 Park Lane, Hornchurch, Essex, England4

  •  

  • a married carpenter and joiner living with his wife Alice, son Derek, daughter Beryl and a closed record (presumably daughter Valerie). Born on 6th July 1899

  • Death:

  • Q4 1971 (age 72)

  • Havering "Registration District", Greater London, England3

Wife: Alice Barrett

  • Name:

  • Alice Barrett1,9

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Father:

  • -

  • Mother:

  • -

  • Birth:

  • 23 Jan 1899

  • Walthamstow, Essex, England4,9,10,11,12

  • Census:

  • 31 Mar 1901 (age 2)

  • 5 Globe Road, Hornchurch, Essex, England10

  •  

  • daughter living with her parents Arthur and Louisa, sisters Louisa and Elizabeth, brothers Arthur and William, and grandfather William Barrett. Born in Walthamstow Essex

  • Census:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 12)

  • 92 Park Lane, Romford, Essex, England11

  •  

  • daughter attending school and living in five rooms with her parents Arthur and Louisa, sisters Louisa, Elizabeth and Winifred, brothers Arthur, William, John and Leslie, and cousin Alice. Born in Essex

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 40)

  • 143 Park Lane, Hornchurch, Essex, England4

  •  

  • married doing unpaid domestic duties and living with her husband Ernest, son Derek, daughter Beryl and a closed record (presumably daughter Valerie). Born on 23rd January 1899

  • Death:

  • Q1 1973 (age 73-74)

  • Havering "Registration District", Greater London, England12

Child 1: Beverley Winifred Payne

  • Name:

  • Beverley Winifred Payne13

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Spouse:

  • Albert Bernard Parish (1914-2006)

  • Birth:

  • Q4 1920

  • Romford "Registration District", Essex, England13

  • Death:

  • 17 Nov 2013 (age 92-93)

  • Suffolk "Registration District", Suffolk, England14,15

  • Probate:

  • 18 Mar 2014

  • Probate Registry, Birmingham, West Midlands, England15

  •  

  • grant and will, died 17th November 2013

Child 2: Derek Erenest Arthur Payne

  • Name:

  • Derek Erenest Arthur Payne16,17

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Occupation:

  •  

  • cinema page4

  • Birth:

  • 1 Feb 1923

  • Romford "Registration District", Essex, England4,16

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 16)

  • 143 Park Lane, Hornchurch, Essex, England4

  •  

  • an unmarried cinema page living with his parents Ernest and Alice, sister Beryl and a closed record (presumably sister Valerie). Born on 1st February 1923

  • Death:

  • Q3 1941 (age 18)

  • Romford "Registration District", Essex, England17

Child 3: Beryl Phyllis Payne

  • Name:

  • Beryl Phyllis Payne18,19

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Spouse:

  • Sydney Alfred Carter (1921-1999)

  • Birth:

  • 10 Sep 1926

  • Romford "Registration District", Essex, England4,19

  • Census:

  • 29 Sep 1939 (age 13)

  • 143 Park Lane, Hornchurch, Essex, England4

  •  

  • attending school and living with her parents Ernest and Alice, brother Derek and a closed record (presumably sister Valerie). Born on 10th September 1926. Married a Carter at a later date

  • Death:

  • 15 Jul 2012 (age 85)

  • Clacton-on-Sea, Essex, England18

Sources

1.

England and Wales Marriage Index 1837 - 2005, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). Romford1920 quarter:4 volume:4a page:1329. Cit. Date: 15 September 2019.

2.

England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2019, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.gro.gov.uk). Thetford 1899 quarter:3 volume:4b page:371. Cit. Date: 7 April 2018.

3.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2019, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.gro.gov.uk). Havering 1971 quarter:4 volume:5c page:49. Cit. Date: 17 September 2019.

4.

1939 UK Register, (on-line at www.findmypast.co.uk). class:RG101 piece:1521E page:12 line:7 letter code:DCAZ. Cit. Date: 15 September 2019.

5.

Census 1901, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:RG13 piece:1759 folio:95 page:10. Cit. Date: 21 December 2018.

6.

Census 1911, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:RG14 piece11731 class:RG78 piece:649 registration district:239 sub-district:2 enumeration district:4 schedule:90. Cit. Date: 21 December 2018.

7.

FindMyPast British Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1924 Transcription, (on-line at www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive ref:ADM 188/635/43790. Cit. Date: 21 December 2018.

8.

FindMyPast British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records 1912-1939, (on-line at www.findmypast. co.uk). National Archive ref:AIR 79/2196. Cit. Date: 21 December 2018.

9.

England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2019, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.gro.gov.uk). West Ham 1899 quarter:1 volume:4a page:435. Cit. Date: 17 September 2019.

10.

Census 1901, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:RG13 piece:1656 folio:103 page:34. Cit. Date: 17 September 2019.

11.

Census 1911, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). class:RG14 piece:9938 class:RG78 piece:523 registration district:191 sub-district:4 enumeration district:5 schedule:115. Cit. Date: 17 September 2019.

12.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2019, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.gro.gov.uk). Havering 1973 quarter:1 volume:5c page:323. Cit. Date: 17 September 2019.

13.

England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2019, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.gro.gov.uk). Romford 1920 quarter:4 volume:4a page:1122. Cit. Date: 15 September 2019.

14.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2019, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.gro.gov.uk). Suffolk 2013 quarter:4 district:7481G entry:509400845. Cit. Date: 31 January 2021.

15.

UK Government Probate Service, UK Government Find a Will, ( on-line at www.probatesearch.service.gov.uk). Birmingham 2014 no:4291852. Cit. Date: 31 January 2021.

16.

England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2019, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.gro.gov.uk). Romford 1923 quarter:1 volume:4a page:1072. Cit. Date: 15 September 2019.

17.

England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2019, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.gro.gov.uk). Romford 1941 quarter:3 volume:4a page:635. Cit. Date: 17 September 2019.

18.

Ancestry Family Trees, ( on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk). Payne Family Tree by Lee Payne. Cit. Date: 15 September 2019.

19.

England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2019, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.gro.gov.uk). Romford 1926 quarter:3 volume:4a page:971. Cit. Date: 15 September 2019.